Money Scenarios

A worked example

The state tax no rate table shows

Dana, 62, single, retired in New York with $900,000 in pre-tax accounts and $300,000 in a brokerage account, spending $60,000 a year. No Social Security yet, no other income.

“I want the whole pre-tax balance in a Roth before RMDs start. New York's top rate is nowhere near California's. How much does the state actually take?”

What the projection shows

Nine years of $100,000 conversions add up to $212,711 of lifetime tax in present value, and the state's share doesn't behave the way a bracket table suggests. New York excludes the first $20,000 a year of pension and annuity income once you've been 59½ for a full year, and a Roth conversion counts (TSB-M-98(7)I), so a fifth of each early conversion leaves the state's tax base entirely. Then the brokerage account runs dry, the projection starts funding living costs from the pre-tax balance on top of the conversion, and state income crosses New York's supplemental-tax threshold. From that year on, the state adds a supplemental tax on top of its regular schedule, and two years behind each conversion the Medicare lookback arrives as well. Neither shows up in a rate table, and neither was what the question was about.

What else the projection found

Nothing was missing from the inputs. These follow directly from the numbers above, under the assumptions this example uses.

  • The $100,000 converted this year pushes income past the top of the 0% band, so $2,664 of gains and dividends that would have been tax-free are now taxed $790. Your ordinary bracket didn't change, so a bracket table wouldn't show this.
  • $627 of that year's $11,028 state tax bill is bracket recapture, triggered by the $100,000 conversion.
  • The $100,000 converted in year 4 adds $5,358 in Medicare surcharges in year 6, two years after the conversion.
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A projection based on stated assumptions. Not financial or tax advice.